Author: Stan Denis

  • What Venues should look for in a Production Crew

    I must say that I am frequently stunned by how little thought seems to go into the selection of sound engineers and production crew at clubs, bars, and music halls. I see venues spend so much time and money trying to make their businesses as successful as possible. They carefully scrutinize their bartenders, servers, cooks, and cleaning crew. They train and supervise their service staff and make sure everything is being done as expected. Many venues have cameras that surround the bar to make sure the bartender is not stealing money or giving away too many drinks. Every night someone is responsible for running the sales report, cleaning the bar and kitchen areas. Someone is tasked with ordering the replacement alcohol and food to make sure there is always something for the customers.

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    Then for whatever reason, there is a completely different situation for the production team. Imagine, if you will, that you are a venue owner or manager. You have spent countless hours working in and on your business with the intention being to accumulate a solid customer base through the delivery of your product and services. You select the best mood lighting and paint colors and various other interior design elements. You create a menu that you believe will bring in and maintain your customer base. You have done everything you can to ensure the success of your establishment. Now imagine that you hire a group of bartenders and servers and give them complete and total free rein. They are allowed to function in any way they want. Coming into work with a bad attitude? No problem. Failing to treat the customers with respect? No problem. Coming in late? Fine with you! Serving inferior food and drinks? That’s ok. Letting people abuse and break glasses and dishes? No big deal. 

    I am assuming most would agree that the aforementioned scenario would be a foolish way to operate any kind of business. That however, is precisely what I see when it comes to the way many venues run the live entertainment portion of their business. Their production and booking teams so frequently lack the talent, skill, and professionalism required to put on great events. Further, very often production crews don’t even understand the vision and process for how a live event should be prepared for and executed.  

    So let’s look at one of the potential causes of sub-par production staff at venues.

    Let’s start with another analogy.

    Imagine that you have chosen to open a restaurant/bar that will feature live music. You decide that you want to have a certain food theme. Perhaps you decide that you are going to do Italian/American cuisine. With the help of your friends and newly hired staff, you choose the food items that will be on the menu. So far so good. Then the opening day comes where for the first time you will be hosting customers at your new establishment. You prepared for this day by spending time and money to promote this opening event. People start to show up. Perfect! Before long the restaurant is full and orders are coming into the kitchen. Everything is great! Then, after a while, as people begin to finish eating and getting up to leave you notice half-full plates left on the tables. You go back to the kitchen and realize that there is a lot of uneaten food. You think to yourself that maybe your portions are too big. As each day comes and goes you find that instead of having the number of reservations and customers growing, it is shrinking. Within a month or so the restaurant is fairly empty most of the time.  

    With this realization, you begin to ask questions of your servers and people who you know that have been to the restaurant. After some discussion, you find out that people just don’t think the food is very good. Upon asking one of your good friends why they have not returned for dinner they answer your question with a question. They ask “Well, what do you think of the food that you are serving? Do you think it is good Italian cuisine?” You think for a second and then you respond by saying, “ Well you know it seems pretty good to me but I don’t actually eat a lot of Italian food or go to many Italian restaurants”. Your friend looks at you somewhat stunned and asks the obvious question. “If you don’t understand what good Italian food tastes like then how do you know if the food you are serving is good or bad?” Your response might be, Well the food seemed fine to me”. Here you are a month or two into the opening of this new restaurant and no-one told you that the food was not good. They simply stopped coming back. The food was not terrible, it was simply not enjoyable enough for them to choose to come back and spend money and time at your establishment. There are many restaurant options for customers and they are always going to choose the ones that they most enjoy going to. 

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    The very same thing happens with live music at many venues. The owner of the venue decides they want to offer live music. They hire a production person. Often they hire someone who knows someone else with whom they are both friends. It’s the whole “Hey I know a guy” type of situation. During the interview, this “production person” spouts off some big words and talks about all the bands they have worked with. Then before you know it there might be a new improperly designed sound system in the venue and the shows begin to happen. The owner has attended many concerts but they have no idea how to evaluate the production staff. They don’t know what is required to put on high-quality events. They don’t understand the pitfalls of advancing and producing shows. Often the venue puts on the first group of shows and there is a decent crowd. Then before long, the crowds start to diminish. Perhaps the quality of bands that you are attracting begins to diminish as well. Or perhaps the quality of the clientele starts to diminish. For some reason, that great band that you hosted last month is now telling you that they are booked and that they can’t come to play again at your venue for dates you are suggesting.

    Have you ever been to a venue that regularly offers performances from amazing bands, who always seem to be in a good mood when they are playing there, where the venue always has great sound, where nothing is too obnoxious or too loud, where every show is just right, pleasant and enjoyable? You can be sure that if you are at a place that offers this experience regularly that the owner or management very likely understand what great sound is, how to prepare for and run a high-quality show and as a result know exactly what they were looking for and the value of a great production person. They didn’t just look for that person who could pull off a show and was willing to work cheap. Instead, they have a vision and understand that the sound engineer can be as important as the chef or bartender. They understand that the production crew not only sets the stage but also sets the mood for the show. As I have mentioned in my past blog posts, there are very important elements to preparing for a concert. Most of those elements are the same whether it’s a little bar show with an audience of 40 or a music festival with thousands of concert-goers.  
    One thing to consider about compensation for engineers at clubs and halls.

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    I don’t know about you but I have been to many shows where the sound was so bad, or so loud, where there was feedback or some element of the music that was almost unbearable because of bad processing or a bad mix, that I just simply could not stay for the whole event. I have experienced this at little pubs with local bands as well as at our area’s biggest rock clubs with smaller national acts that use the venue’s house engineer. I have even experienced woeful sound with outside production companies that I have hired to do some of my bigger events along with my production company where they run one stage and we run others. As far as I can tell, it pretty much always comes down to the same few issues. 1. Lack of knowledge by the engineer 2. Lack of preparation by the engineer or 3. Lack of caring and professionalism of the engineer. I don’t want to understate how much of a difference bands can make in the sound of an event with proper preparation but even an ill prepared band can have a mix and volume that is not offensive to the audience when there is a good, prepared, respectful engineer at the console. 

    With this in mind, I think it’s worth considering how much of a difference the production crew can make not only in the quality of the show but also in the amount of revenue that is generated from the show. How many more drinks would have to be sold to justify paying your sound engineer an extra $50? Why do I use the amount $50? We have done a good amount of research and found that a $50 increase in compensation for club and music hall sound engineers will typically buy you a substantially more experienced and capable production professional. If you are currently only paying $100 then bumping it to $150 will definitely get you a better engineer. If you are currently paying $150 then bumping it to $200 will start to get you a truly professional engineer who you should be able to expect to spend decent time advancing, preparing and running your events. When you go from $200 to $250 that is the threshold where you can get some serious veteran live sound engineers with substantial resumes.

    If you pay more, you can and should expect more. I’ve been to concerts where the sound was so pleasantly immersive that I just wanted to hang out all night. If just 10 people decide to stay for an extra hour at your venue then it is probably safe to say that paying your engineer an extra $50 would be worth it. How about the impact on the venue’s bottom line when it becomes known for great-sounding shows all the time? More people will attend more often. That must certainly make your engineer worth an extra $50 per show. How about when you have that fun, outgoing engineer who is full of personality. The engineer who knows most of the regulars that come to your venue. The engineer who the customers are proud to know and who the bands look forward to working with? Surely that engineer must be making an impact on the bottom line that is worth an extra $50 per show.

    Let me finish with two final thoughts.

    When my company, The Denis Entertainment Group (DEG) gets contracted to set venues up and create new production teams, we find that the key to successfully putting a great crew together is clearly conveying to the team what exactly is expected of them and precisely how to know if they are doing a good job. You might think this would be obvious but we have found that it is not at all. When we are contracted by venues the first question I ask the management is “What do you need and expect from your production crew and how will they know if they are doing a good job?” This question is usually met with silence. Once again, going back to one of the analogies I used earlier in this article, you would never let your chef or cook come to work with no idea of what their goal is and how to evaluate if they are successfully performing their duties. The same goes for your cleaning crew. Everyone needs to know exactly what is expected and how to evaluate if they are doing well. Venue management must clearly define the responsibilities of the production crew and they must make sure that the production crew and everyone else who works for the venue understands the vision and mission. If you do not know how to define these things then I suggest doing some research or call a company like DEG to help you out.

    One final issue.

    How many jobs can you name where the employee/contractor is allowed to consume alcohol when they are working? The only thing worse than having an engineer that lacks knowledge and preparation is having a drunk engineer or an engineer who is under the influence of some sort of substance when they are working. I have a strict no-drinking policy for all of my engineers. If we are working then we are not consuming any substances that could cloud our judgment or present us as unprofessional. Too often I see venues that get away with paying their production crew less than they should because they let them drink for free. Think about that for a second. Imagine having an engineer who is willing to work for less so that they can get buzzed or drunk while working your event. That is the antithesis of what this whole article is about. Venues need to do themselves and the entire music business a favor and stop letting this happen. 
    Let’s hold our production people to a high standard. Let’s pay them what they are worth. Let’s raise the bar for the venue production crew. Let’s put on better shows. Let’s treat the music business like a business. Let’s all find success together. If you learn the ins and outs of putting on a high-quality professional show then you will know how to train your production people. If you chose not to learn these things then you will never have control over the live performance part of your business. 

    Here is to better, smoother, more rewarding and epic shows.

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  • Denis Entertainment Group shares Best Practices for Bands and Production

    Stan Denis of Denis Entertainment Group is a live sound engineer/system designer and President of the Denis Entertainment Group (DEG). With years of experience producing events and designing sound systems for venues, including Bearsville Theater in Woodstock and Lark Hall in Albany, Stan offers insight for up and coming bands when working with production teams.

    In my previous blog post titled “The common production issue musicians encounter during concerts and why it’s a travesty,” I discussed one of the biggest production-related complaints that we get from bands. Bad monitor mixes and feedback from the monitors. You might remember I mentioned that it is often an unorganized, or maybe even uncaring sound engineer that quite literally sets the stage for things to go poorly during the show. Well, like with many other issues in the world, there are at least two sides to this story.

    Imagine this, if you will. You are a sound engineer or perhaps part of a multi-member production crew. You have a show coming up in 2 weeks and you have been given the band’s contact information. You reach out to them to do the TECH ADVANCE. You ask all of the appropriate questions. How many members? What instruments are they using? Specifics to the size of the drum set? You discuss the total mixer channel count for this event. You determine that you will need 10 drum mics, 2 mics on the electric guitar cabinet, a bass Di box, and also a separate mic for the bass cabinet. There is a keyboardist with two keyboards that you will run in stereo. There are three horns and four vocalists. You determine that you need six stage monitors to cover the band’s needs. This is all agreed upon during the phone call.

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    Next, you do what any responsible sound engineer should do before the day of the show. You build a scene for the digital mix console that you will be using, where you spend 45 minutes or so thinking of every detail that you think might occur during the show with this band. You go to youtube and listen to the band’s music. You determine what kinds of effects they are using on the vocals and drums. You study them for a few songs so that you know what their sound is.

    On the day of the show, you get to the venue before the band. You place all 6 monitors, run all of the mics and have them positioned the best you can, keeping them out of the way, yet ready to quickly be placed. You “ring out” all of the vocal mics/monitors before the band gets there, ensuring that there will not be feedback and that you will be prepared to give a great monitor mix. Your goal is to save as much time as possible during the band set up in order to be able to give them a great soundcheck. You want the band to have the best experience possible, and you want to wow the audience with the sound quality of the show. In other words, you have done everything that a professional, competent, and caring sound engineer should do.

    Next, the band arrives 20 minutes after the scheduled load-in time. They get to the venue, see a few people they know, and start having a conversation. You are already twenty minutes behind schedule and now the band is delaying more. Finally, you approach the band and say “Hey guys, I just want to make sure we have enough time to give you a great soundcheck, so can we please get set up?” Next, the guitarist asks if you have a spare guitar cord because he forgot his. You can’t help but think to yourself how were they planning on performing if they didn’t have what was needed to actually perform. You notice that the keyboard player is not yet there and that there are only two horn players instead of the three that you were told would be playing that show. You ask the band if they know when the keyboard player and the other horn player will be arriving, and they say “oh man, yeah they can’t make it to this show.” You can’t help but ask why they didn’t alert you to this when you did the tech advance for show or when they found out that this was going to be the case. And no answer. So now you look at the monitor you placed, the 4 channels that you set up along with the 2 stereo DI boxes that you ran and positioned. You look at how you positioned everything to give the band a nice symmetrical appearance on stage and you realize that since there is no longer a keyboard player taking up a good amount of stage real-estate, you have to shift everything over for this to look right.

    On stage you begin moving things around. Just then the guitarist starts blaring his amp and goes into a loud shred guitar solo instead of helping you to make the stage changes. The drummer is tuning his snare, smashing it even though you are right next to him. They are not at all concerned with the fact that you are the one tasked with making this band sound good tonight and that they are essentially dulling your hearing and more importantly just being rude. There you are sound engineer doing more work and getting further behind because the band did not communicate appropriately with you. No one took the time to alert you to changes. Some members came unprepared to put on a good, professional show. None of the band members seem to be concerned that as their engineer for the evening you did everything in your power to be prepared, yet this band has completely disrespected you and instead of working together, you feel that it’s you against the band now.

    Does this sound like an annoying day’s work for a sound engineer? If you said yes then you are correct, and this is far too often the reality for production people.

    There is a team required to put on a great, successful show. There is the venue, the promoter, the production crew, and the band. Everyone needs to know the plan. Everyone needs to be on the same page working toward the same goal. The band and the sound engineer need to be working very closely together since they are both an intricate part of the actual live performance. There needs to be mutual respect between these two parties. You need each other in order to put on this event. So how can you help your production crew to take care of you?

    I’m glad you asked. Let get into it.

    Putting yourself in the shoes of the production crew is imperative to know what you can do to help make their job easier and most effective.

    Let’s start with the TECH ADVANCE.

    Every musical act, even if you are a solo performer, needs a document that explains what you need on stage and what your production requirements are. There are generally two separate pieces of information that a sound engineer needs from you to be prepared for your show: a stage plot and an input list. Many times these two documents can be combined into one stage plan.

    Stage Plot. This is an easy-to-read map of how you would prefer the band and all of your equipment to be located on the stage. This document should make it easy for the engineer to know exactly where to locate stage monitors, mic stands, stage rugs, DI boxes, and such. As an engineer, I should be able to look at your stage plot and easily layout the stage before you arrive. Don’t get too fancy. Keep it simple to read. When we are providing production for festivals we may encounter as many as 10-15 different stage plots per day. An organized production company will locate printouts of all of the bands’ stage plots on both stage left and stage right. The crew needs to be able to look at your stage plot and quickly know how to set the stage for your set. Make sure you include things like how many drums are in the drum kit that you will be bringing.

    Input List. This is a document that shows how many channels you require as well as the microphone and direct input compliment that you are requesting. Do you want two mics on the kick drum? How about the snare drum? Are you requesting just a direct input of the bass or do you want a mic on the cabinet as well? Are you bringing your own vocal mics or using the “house mics?” If you are bringing your own mics, then what model are they?

    Show up prepared. How many cables should a guitarist have when going to a show? Well if you require two normally then you need at least three. Always have a spare. How about a spare snare drum head or better yet a spare snare drum? If you break your snare head, what’s your plan? Keyboardists, you should have enough cables for a sound engineer to be able to put your instruments into the PA using stereo (2 channels). I don’t know how many times I’ve had a keyboardist show up with a $3,000 stereo keyboard only to have one crappy 1/4 inch cable. Come prepared, have enough cables and at least one spare. Guitar pedal patch cables, strings, power cables, drum sticks, instrument stands, a drum key, etc..

    Show up on time. In the world of live music, very often the biggest obstacle to putting on a great show is time. Be at the venue by the agreed time. Be ready to quickly load-in and set up. Leave social time for after sound-check. You never know what issues may present themselves, so make sure you have left time to deal with them.

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    Understand the reality of the sound engineer. Production crews are usually people who work very long hours in what can be harsh, unforgiving environments, dealing with disrespectful musicians and know-it-all audience members. Being under a time crunch is the norm and there is barely enough time to get things done properly, even if everything goes as planned. What does this mean? It means that you need to take care of the production crew, just as they need to take care of you. You need to understand what they may be going through and you should try to make their lives as easy as possible. You can’t have a great show without them, and they can’t have one without you.

    You have heard of the grumpy sound engineer, right? If you perform enough shows you, will eventually encounter one or more of them. You have the power to turn the grumpy sound engineer into a positive asset of the band. You simply need to show them that you understand and respect their position. Be the breath of fresh air. Be accurate when discussing the tech advance, come on time and prepared, be kind, and understand that something you think is no big deal may present a sizable problem for them.

    The music business is all about relationships. You will usually find that it’s the people who know how to create friendships and who are a pleasure to be around that have the best experience in the music industry. If you do not have promoters, venue owners, booking agents, managers, and production people on your side, you will find it tough going in music. I know of more than a handful of bands who are known for being difficult, arrogant, or clueless and probably don’t even realize that they have been basically blacklisted. Everyone knows that doing a show with them is simply too much trouble, and so they are on the bottom of the list when it comes too booking. If instead you are known for being an artist or band who are fun and rewarding to work with, then you will likely find yourselves with more shows, more compensation, and an overall more enjoyable existence in the world of music. Take care of the production crew. Make their already difficult job as easy as you can. Remember, they want you to have a great show as much as you do. Their reputation is also at stake with every show they mix. The band and the production crew are on the same team. Take care of each other.

    Now go have a good good time with your new friends, the production crew.